Published in Kupé No. 2/2001

the actor johan widerberg

A soccer crazy guy with an educational complex. Could that be somethin'? He himself is far from haughty and it's only after ten years in the business that he wants to call himself an actor. Now Johan Widerberg goes on stage again: in "the picture of dorian gray" at Hipp in Malmö.

Johan at the horizon

Sports freak to say the least. Almost irrespective of what I ask Johan Widerberg – he gets into sports. And preferably soccer. We talk, for example, about when he met Robert Duvall at a film festival in Uruguay – and Johan Widerberg starts talking about how that was the same town in which Maradona was admitted for cocaine addiction. I also ask him what the most important thing that dad Bo has taught him is – and son Johan then unhesitatingly explains that it's the importance of a soccer player being two-footed.
   - So we practiced that a lot!
   You see, Johan Widerberg could very well have been one of those players in Djurgården who've now advanced to Allsvenskan. But like so many other boys at fifteen, he developed "other interests", as it's called.
   - And above all it became too much with five training sessions a week.

So he could have become a soccer player – but he became an actor. Against his will.
   - Well, in any case, under protest. I really didn't want to be in "Ebba och Didrik”. There was a persuasion campaign going on for several months before I caved in. I was 14 years old and I thought that the shooting could at least be a way out of school, says Johan Widerberg and lights a cigarette.
   Peter Schildt's and Christina Herrström's TV series re-aired this last fall. It was the third time it was shown. It's obviously among those series that can be shown to each new generation. Something that Johan Widerberg does appreciate.
   - But I've never seen the whole series concentrated! Just glimpses here and there. When it came out it was just painful. And now it's probably more embarrassing.
   Although it wasn't all negative. During the seven months that the series was filmed, he fell deeply in love with the shooting situation itself. With the feeling of community with the team. With the way of living and working.
   - It's a special work place. I felt incredibly good - up until the second where the clapperboard was struck. Then it was just anxiety again.
   In this trauma you find the explanation to why Johan Widerberg only just recently began calling himself an actor. What began under protest couldn't reasonably be the thing he should be doing. But still, it is a bit odd that here we have a young man who's been in no less than three Swedish films that have been nominated for an Oscar for best Foreign language film! They are ”Lust och fägring stor”, ”Under solen” – and also ”Mitt liv som hund”.
   - I wonder if I can really count that one? and I always find it equally embarrassing every time when it turns up in my résumé at film festivals. Because then there is always someone in the congregation who thinks I'm Anton! (Glanzelius.) And then I have to explain. ”Do you remember the scene where he gets stuck with Frasse in the bottle? Then the big brother first asks another boy, who says no. And that boy is me.
   Now, we won't make a joke about the fact that Johan Widerberg hasn't wanted to call himself an actor before the age of about 25. Because it's no snobbery. It's more serious than that.
   - Yes, I have a bit of an educational complex, because I haven't gone to a school of drama.
    Do you feel that other actors look down on you because of that?
   - Yes, sometimes. I can feel a bit left out. I'm not part of a group. Those who go through the school often build relationships that live on after the education.
   Do you think it has been a disadvantage for you that you are Bo Widerberg's son? That people feel that you have taken a shortcut into the profession?
   - I've never had anyone say that to my face, but I'm not so stupid as to not understand that there are some people who have felt that way. And maybe still do. What do I know?
   But aside from small things in your absolute childhood, you've only worked with your father once, in ”Lust och fägring stor”?
   - Yes, both he and I handled that very well, if you look back at it. Up until that film he didn't do anything to get me a job. Neither in front of nor behind the camera nor in any other way. When I got that lead, I'd already begun somewhat, with ”Rapport till himlen” and some other things.
   It was 1995, but it would take a few more years before the courage to call himself an actor sufficed.
   - Yes, there is probably another reason as well, to my waiting, and that's the fear that the phone suddenly will stop ringing. If you've then never said the words, not stood by them, then you've created a way out.
   But along with the roles, a self-confidence has emerged, ironically enough to the extent that Johan Widerberg during the last two years hardly has worked at all. However, that's not due to him not having any offers – but to him turning them down. Which should demand a certain courage. Because if you aren't seen then there's always a chance that you don't – exist.
   - Yeah, it's easy for the fear to creep up on you - what if they never call again! There was actually a production manager who called the other day, who I know from before, and who had something in the works. She started by asking: There was someone who said that you had quit?
   But why have you said no so many times?
   - I'm very careful with waiting for a sense of pleasure to present itself.

so how do you make a living in the meantime? With jobs in commercials?
   - No, our incomes as actors are such that if you make a feature film you get a pile of money. People do think that pile is bigger than it is, but it's reasonably high, which means that you can get by quite a long time – if you avoid going crazy when you first get that pile.
   And don't buy boats, Summer houses and Armani suits?
   - Exactly. Or, you can buy Armani suits, I guess, they are pretty firm. But I don't have any, they are cut all wrong for me. I'm far too short for Armani. They are so long. I've put a lot of time into checking this out, as you can hear!
   So the self-confidence has begun to sprout up within Johan Widerberg. But it's a delicate little plant that demands a lot of water and nourishment. Then you feel that all the good reviews should come in handy.
   - Well you know, it's always fun, but they last for about a minute! Then you're there again. This a sport of grading, this is. If you compare with diving, you can for example get four 8.5's. And then there's some bastard who gives you a 5.5! Well, then it's him you concentrate on. And if you're worse, which I am, then you can declare the one who's put 8.5 incapacitated. Then you can think ”He doesn't get anything” or ”I've never liked what she writes anyway”. And then that would mean that even the high grades are in actuality – bad.

Kupé close-up

the role as the sly grave-digger Erik, in Colin Nutley's "Under solen", was a sort of second breakthrough for Johan Widerberg. Here he got away from the label of young and innocent toy boy that he earned in "All things fair" and "Christmas Oratorio". In the one he was seduced by Marika Lagercrantz' sexually starved teacher, in the other by Viveka Seldahl's fragile village eccentric.
   - There was an incessant nagging about that, just because those films came out so close after each other. I can understand it, in one way, but in the end I was annoyed still the same. Should I really turn down a script as good as "Christmas Oratorio" and a director that I immediately had confidence in – just because of that little scene? That would be sheer madness.
   Earlier this fall I interviewed Björn Kellman here in Kupé. An actor who, it's true, is eleven years older Johan Widerberg, but who during his career repeatedly has had to play younger than he is.
   - There are simple explanations to why I've had to do that. I'm young and look much younger than I am. And of course I can do those kind of roles. That's just the way it is.
   Björn Kellman was in any case tired of it. And that he's been called Sweden's answer to Michael J. Fox.
   - Then I can tell you that for a while I got teased for being Sweden's answer to Macaulay Culkin! And that's actually worse than being Sweden's answer to Michael J. Fox. So Björn shouldn't complain so damn much, haha!
   In this Christmas' big TV drama ”Herr von Hancken” Johan Widerberg had one of the lead roles as the narrator Carlander. A young man who is tutor to the eccentric Mr von Hancken's slightly retarded son. A man more Johan Widerberg's own age.
   - Well, I think he's pretty young, he he. But I didn't care, possibly subconsciously, to find out, just to not have to know that I was playing 18 again.
   The director was the Dane Rumle Hammerich, known from among other things TV series like ”Dårfinkar och dönickar” and the TV movies ”Kan du vissla Johanna” and ”Hunden som log”. He was one of the reasons that Johan Widerberg chose to say yes. The role in itself was less crucial.
   - Yes, the big picture is more important. It's always been like that for me. Which most likely has to do with the fact that I'm not here first and foremost out of a personal drive to express myself, but more to be a part of a film collaboration. I've never felt like ”damn, what a good character” but rather ”damn, what a good script” and ”damn, what a good context”.
   To those who feel that there's been a little too little of Johan Widerberg for some time, it's luckily so that the ”the good contexts” now have been lining up. So, first this Christmas' big TV venture, and Johan Widerberg also has a smaller part in Colin Nutley's latest film ”Gossip”. But this spring it's all about standing on the theater stage, and only for the second time in life – the first time was five years ago at Stockholm City Theater in ”An Inspector Calls”. This time it's the lead in Oscar Wilde's ”The Picture of Dorian Gray”, which is being played at Hipp in Malmö.
   - Just to be on stage in such a big production is fascinating. I've never done that before. It's a challenge in itself.
   And here you get to play a guy who really stays young!?
   - Yes, there is a resemblance in that I don't look that old, but hopefully I haven't sold my soul to look this unspoilt, like poor Dorian has to!
   ”The Picture of Dorian Gray” is being directed by Johanna Garpe and as co-actors Johan Widerberg has among others Rikard Wolff, Johanna Sällström and Göran Dyrssén. Again – it's the big picture that is the deciding factor.
   - Yes, there are so many other things to feel anxious about, so it alleviates things if the atmosphere is safe and warm.
   The anxiety he talks about is spelled stage fright. And it's no game.
   - No, it keeps making itself known. You don't get anything for free, it's a hell of a struggle. And I who haven't been to any school of drama and haven't been that much on stage, I don't have any tricks to lean back on.

Johan freezing

johan widerberg remembers the first time he stood on a stage.
   - It was terribly nerve-racking. I had physical problems. I was shaking. It's true!
   So it doesn't disappear the moment that you go on stage?
   - A lot of people say that, but I brought the shaking with me. Which created a problem, because my character was supposed to pour some liquor, he drank a little too much. But maybe it gave him a certain credibility, he he.
   He can joke about it, like this in hindsight. But is shows in the eyes that the stage fright is a devil to take seriously. With greatest possible concentration Johan Widerberg stubs out another cigarette. The last one during our conversation. I discretely count the contents of the ashtray. Seven. In two hours. That's not bad. And he who was going to be a soccer player.

Johan lying on the bridge

FACTS JOHAN WIDERBERG
NAME: Johan Olof Widerberg.

AGE: 26 years.

LIVES: In Stockholm.

FAMILY: Mom.

OCCUPATION: Actor.

MADE HIS DEBUT: At 1 years in Bo Widerberg's "The Man on the Roof".

CURRENTLY IN: The lead in the play "The Picture of Dorian Gray" at Hipp in Malmö. Last Christmas he was the narrator Carlander in the SVT series "Herr von Hancken". He also has a small part in Colin Nutley's film "Gossip".

VEHICLE: A damn nice bike! With an Eddy Merckx-ram och Campagnolo chorus.

FAVOURITE TEAM: Djurgården.

FAVOURITE PLAYER: Zidane. He has a completely unique ability to always have time with the boll.

MY SPORTS INTEREST: A tad excessive.

WEAKNESS: That I take up too little room in my profession.

STRENGTH: That I take up so little room! Because that can also be a way of acting in film, that I love to watch. To act with small means.

ANNOYS HIM: That Yksel doesn't get to play more in the national team! He's got a drive in his step, and both intentions and energy that you haven't seen in Kennet Andersson since 1994.

THE BEST PART I'VE SEEN: Robert Duvall as Tom Hagen in "The Godfather". Speaking about not taking up room!

BEFORE I TURN 30 I'M GOING TO: Watch a Grand Prix at Monza!


Text: Mats Weman | Photo: Stefan Bohlin

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